It starts out a friendly conversation amongst friends...
ProfessorTom: What, praytell, does
photogoot do for a living?
EricHowton: He's a Program Manager.
ProfessorTom: what exactly does that title entail?
ProfessorTom: what exactly does a program manager do besides manage?
EricHowton: He's in charge of the Project Managers.
ProfessorTom: what do they do?
EricHowton: Oversee the various lines of service to ensure a project has what it needs to meet the customer's expectations usually.
Here's the question the first time:
ProfessorTom: so he's a programmer, but on the management side of it?
EricHowton: A Program Manager is usually more political and less hands on than a project manager.
EricHowton: No programming involved.
Here's the question a second time:
ProfessorTom: but he does/can/did program?
EricHowton: No. There is no programming involved in a Program Management position.
Clear?
ProfessorTom: I understand that
Fantastic!
ProfessorTom: how did he work his way up to that position?
EricHowton: He was hired off the street and skyrocketed to that position based on his boyish good-looks and innate charm.
ProfessorTom: I see
Wait a tic, wots this?
ProfessorTom: so he never programmed professionally?
Uh...
EricHowton: THERE IS NO PROGRAMMING INVOLVED!!!!! The word PROGRAM in this case refers to a HUGE event (usually outsourcing) which encompasses many smaller projects.
We're good now, right?
ProfessorTom: I need either a "yes" or "no" answer to this question
ProfessorTom: Are you retarded?
EricHowton: Yes. I have many faults. One of them is trying to convey new ideas to you.
EricHowton: I should give that up, as I usually just end up repeating myself!
ProfessorTom: thank you. now I know you are not illeterate but rather retarded.
ProfessorTom: I understand there is no programming involved.
EricHowton: NO YOU DON'T!
EricHowton: Because you keep asking me.
WTF?
ProfessorTom: my question was did he ever program professionally?
ProfessorTom: the two are not related
EricHowton: OMG dude, I am so going to KILL YOU!
EricHowton: STOP THE INSANITY!!!!!!
ProfessorTom: d00d!
ProfessorTom: calm down
EricHowton: I'm crying now.
ProfessorTom: I don't want to have to call you wife and tell her you have a heart attack
ProfessorTom: *having
EricHowton: I broke down in my office and am crying like a bitch because of you.
ProfessorTom: that's right
ProfessorTom: you're my bitch. now cry, damn you!
EricHowton: Please stop asking if he programs, professionally or otherwise.
EricHowton: Please?
EricHowton: You know what, he's not a Program Manager.
EricHowton: He's unemployed.
EricHowton: Sorry I mislead you.
ProfessorTom: if you'll answer the question OF PAST EVENTS
ProfessorTom: ha ha!
ProfessorTom: you're so funny
ProfessorTom: I just split my sides laughing
EricHowton: *sigh*
EricHowton: No, he's never programmed anything more difficult than his VCR.
ProfessorTom: thank you sir!
ProfessorTom: now, tell me, how difficult was it to answer that question?
EricHowton: Extremely,
EricHowton: difficult.
ProfessorTom: apparently!
ProfessorTom: God!
ProfessorTom: you make the baby Jesus cry
EricHowton: Oh no sir, your misunderstanding of the English language is unparalleled!
EricHowton: I'm sorry I ever uttered the word 'Program'
ProfessorTom: two gentlemen in an online argument
ProfessorTom: this is so fun to watch!
EricHowton: You made me piss myself the fourth time you asked if he was a programmer.
EricHowton: I thought, "Certainly he's not hitting the crack pipe as we speak?"
ProfessorTom: I didn't ask if he was a programmer more then once. I asked HAD HE EVER PROGRAMMED. There is a slight difference, sir
ProfessorTom: you sir, are an unparalled work of art.
EricHowton: "Yes, he's programmed in the past, which is why he's a Program Manager, which involves NO PROGRAMMING WHATSOEVER!"
EricHowton: *eyeroll*
EricHowton: I was trying to lead you off the path.
ProfessorTom: the two are not mutually inclusive
ProfessorTom: yes, you were
EricHowton: But like a mule, you kept in the rut.
ProfessorTom: that's right.
EricHowton: Mule-headed bastard!
ProfessorTom: got lot's of fields to plow, Bro. Howton
ProfessorTom: Gonna leave my troubles Lord, Lord gonna leave my troubles behind
EricHowton: Comin' for to carry me home....
ProfessorTom: at least now we are on the same page
ProfessorTom: Congratulations, sir!
ProfessorTom: where's the champaign to mark the occasion?
EricHowton: I want you to die.

Well, consensus shows that I was the only one who thought this was funny. Yes, I know what he was really asking, but I couldn't help myself.
And I apologize for freezing everyone's comments, but someone began systematically deleting their comments throwing the thread off.
ProfessorTom: What, praytell, does
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EricHowton: He's a Program Manager.
ProfessorTom: what exactly does that title entail?
ProfessorTom: what exactly does a program manager do besides manage?
EricHowton: He's in charge of the Project Managers.
ProfessorTom: what do they do?
EricHowton: Oversee the various lines of service to ensure a project has what it needs to meet the customer's expectations usually.
Here's the question the first time:
ProfessorTom: so he's a programmer, but on the management side of it?
EricHowton: A Program Manager is usually more political and less hands on than a project manager.
EricHowton: No programming involved.
Here's the question a second time:
ProfessorTom: but he does/can/did program?
EricHowton: No. There is no programming involved in a Program Management position.
Clear?
ProfessorTom: I understand that
Fantastic!
ProfessorTom: how did he work his way up to that position?
EricHowton: He was hired off the street and skyrocketed to that position based on his boyish good-looks and innate charm.
ProfessorTom: I see
Wait a tic, wots this?
ProfessorTom: so he never programmed professionally?
Uh...
EricHowton: THERE IS NO PROGRAMMING INVOLVED!!!!! The word PROGRAM in this case refers to a HUGE event (usually outsourcing) which encompasses many smaller projects.
We're good now, right?
ProfessorTom: I need either a "yes" or "no" answer to this question
ProfessorTom: Are you retarded?
EricHowton: Yes. I have many faults. One of them is trying to convey new ideas to you.
EricHowton: I should give that up, as I usually just end up repeating myself!
ProfessorTom: thank you. now I know you are not illeterate but rather retarded.
ProfessorTom: I understand there is no programming involved.
EricHowton: NO YOU DON'T!
EricHowton: Because you keep asking me.
WTF?
ProfessorTom: my question was did he ever program professionally?
ProfessorTom: the two are not related
EricHowton: OMG dude, I am so going to KILL YOU!
EricHowton: STOP THE INSANITY!!!!!!
ProfessorTom: d00d!
ProfessorTom: calm down
EricHowton: I'm crying now.
ProfessorTom: I don't want to have to call you wife and tell her you have a heart attack
ProfessorTom: *having
EricHowton: I broke down in my office and am crying like a bitch because of you.
ProfessorTom: that's right
ProfessorTom: you're my bitch. now cry, damn you!
EricHowton: Please stop asking if he programs, professionally or otherwise.
EricHowton: Please?
EricHowton: You know what, he's not a Program Manager.
EricHowton: He's unemployed.
EricHowton: Sorry I mislead you.
ProfessorTom: if you'll answer the question OF PAST EVENTS
ProfessorTom: ha ha!
ProfessorTom: you're so funny
ProfessorTom: I just split my sides laughing
EricHowton: *sigh*
EricHowton: No, he's never programmed anything more difficult than his VCR.
ProfessorTom: thank you sir!
ProfessorTom: now, tell me, how difficult was it to answer that question?
EricHowton: Extremely,
EricHowton: difficult.
ProfessorTom: apparently!
ProfessorTom: God!
ProfessorTom: you make the baby Jesus cry
EricHowton: Oh no sir, your misunderstanding of the English language is unparalleled!
EricHowton: I'm sorry I ever uttered the word 'Program'
ProfessorTom: two gentlemen in an online argument
ProfessorTom: this is so fun to watch!
EricHowton: You made me piss myself the fourth time you asked if he was a programmer.
EricHowton: I thought, "Certainly he's not hitting the crack pipe as we speak?"
ProfessorTom: I didn't ask if he was a programmer more then once. I asked HAD HE EVER PROGRAMMED. There is a slight difference, sir
ProfessorTom: you sir, are an unparalled work of art.
EricHowton: "Yes, he's programmed in the past, which is why he's a Program Manager, which involves NO PROGRAMMING WHATSOEVER!"
EricHowton: *eyeroll*
EricHowton: I was trying to lead you off the path.
ProfessorTom: the two are not mutually inclusive
ProfessorTom: yes, you were
EricHowton: But like a mule, you kept in the rut.
ProfessorTom: that's right.
EricHowton: Mule-headed bastard!
ProfessorTom: got lot's of fields to plow, Bro. Howton
ProfessorTom: Gonna leave my troubles Lord, Lord gonna leave my troubles behind
EricHowton: Comin' for to carry me home....
ProfessorTom: at least now we are on the same page
ProfessorTom: Congratulations, sir!
ProfessorTom: where's the champaign to mark the occasion?
EricHowton: I want you to die.

Well, consensus shows that I was the only one who thought this was funny. Yes, I know what he was really asking, but I couldn't help myself.
And I apologize for freezing everyone's comments, but someone began systematically deleting their comments throwing the thread off.
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Ass.
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Was that hard?
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ProfessorTom: but he does/can/did program?
EricHowton: No. There is no programming involved in a Program Management position.
Clearly there is a "No." hidden in there. Clearly hidden I say, or is that cleverly hidden with an explanation? =) Pro_T and ehowton, your conversations/arguments/bashing are so missed at TSS!
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Well now of course not - but it sure was fun, and I'm fully expecting the same conversation to show up on his blog with the exact opposite twist: Making me look a fool!
You say this like making you look like a fool is difficult!!!!
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Wow
Tis time for a new post though I'm thinking.
*pokes you then runs for the door* Haha! :-D
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*Giggles like the Pilsbury dough-boy*
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Discuss.
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Freddy, as a younger man, I was a sculptor, a painter, and a musician. There was just one problem: I wasn't very good. As a matter of fact, I was dreadful. I finally came to the frustrating conclusion that I had taste and style, but not talent. I knew my limitations. We all have our limitations, Freddy. Fortunately, I discovered that taste and style were commodities that people desired. Freddy, what I am saying is: know your limitations. You are a moron.
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Do you know how difficult it is to program one of those fat bastards? I'll give you a hint: it's harder then it looks.
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