while I can see both points of view - let it be said that simply being a large grossing movie with tons of cgi, very little TRUE acting - this doesn't a "great" movie make; yet to truly make the argument one must suggest a movie that it can be compared to - thus I say - "Kalifornia" - a VERY good movie - or "Heat" - or anything Cameron Crowe directed - So if you say "dude, geeoorge (learn to spell, punky!)sucks!" then at least put up a better one. anyone find a sex toy around here? - long, studded, & hooked to a car battery - if so call 402-555-2307 - there's a reward if, if it still works. CMB